Opinions on Mary Boleyn

And I beseech you, good master secretary, pray my lord my father and my lady to be so good to us, and to let me have their blessings and my husband their good will; and I will never desire more of them. Also, I pray you, desire my lord of Norfolk and my lord my brother to be good to us. I dare not write to them, they are so cruel against us; but if, with any pain that I could take with my life, I might win their good wills, I promise you there is no child living would venture more than I.

So that’s an excerpt from her letter to Thomas Cromwell after she was banished from court for marrying without permission.

My impression from this is that her male relatives were not especially kind to her. Bearing that in my mind, I tend to think that she made the decision to marry someone before a husband could be chosen for her by her father, brother, uncle etc. 

Because her marriage prospects could only have gotten better/wealthier, not worse, after she was officially the Queen’s sister (she was unmarried for a few years after Carey died), I don’t think wealth was enough of an incentive. 

“Carey died greatly in debt” (? according to Wiki)…Mary sold Anne a piece of her jewelery after Carey’s death (Henry gifted Anne the money to buy it, we know this because there’s an account of it in his Privy Purse expenses) so that could very well be. It’s also possible the marriage wasn’t a love match, and Mary didn’t want a similar one arranged that was based on lineage ( Carey was the third cousin of Henry VIII).

If Anne ~has married Percy, what do you think her life would’ve looked like? Do you think anything still might’ve happened w h8 (like both divorcing for each other/becoming his mistress/loving each other but not acting on it or whatever) or do you think they would’ve passed like ships in the night never knowing what could have been…

Not a fan of this AU because not a fan of him, honestly but like…idk? 

He never had children with his IRL wife and I think everyone’s been like “oh well because he hated her” but I find it a little strange… because if they never consummated that marriage or only did once or w/e, that would mean he didn’t care about passing his title down to his own issue and that’s a bit strange for a 16th century English nobleman, tbh, 

That or he had fertility issues, or Talbot did, or both…if the former, sad for Anne because I think she really wanted to be a mother. 

As for Henry 8…mmm… maybe? He didn’t have a habit of taking married mistresses, at all (unless that affair with Mary Boleyn was after her marriage, it might have just been before tho)…he entertained marrying Christina of Denmark and she was a widow, and obviously did marry Parr who was one, but other than that…

I don’t think Henry would’ve annulled his marriage on the hope a wed woman would annull her own, he probably would have anyway had he not had a male heir by 1527 but not with marrying an English noblewoman in mind. 

There might have been an attraction anyway because who knows, but Anne would never commit adultery against her husband– we know she never did, so. 

“Casting off all others besides you out of my thoughts and affections”, and that she evidently responded favorably to that (tentatively, in his next letter he writes he’s “please she still has some remembrance of him”) could mean she would have been his mistress were he unmarried, but I don’t think she would be if she herself was married. 

mjalti:

me, having a nice iced coffee: what a lovely day 🙂

my brain, ready to claw its way out of my skull and beat me up in the backalley of a shady new york city mcdonalds: anything readily available is devalued which is why you think that making yourself scarce equates to being respected. you are a coward and you will die as such.

me, sipping my iced coffee, the hint of a tear in my eyes: oh the vanilla in this is so divine too,

dwergaz:

I’ve had some bizarre stuff commented on my posts but this person confidently claiming that the pre-columbian peoples of the Americas could not possibly have understood or even imagined A Large Boat, conceptually, and that their brains blocked it out from their perception like a monster from an H.P. Lovecraft story, is maybe the craziest to date