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This is something I’ve been wondering about for a while, and I thought maybe you’ll know more details: is there any evidence of the Boleyns’ relationship with Elizabeth prior to May 1536? Being the king’s daughter and having her own household, I’m not under the illusion that her grandparents stopped by for the Tudor equivalent of cookie-baking or anything, but it breaks my heart to think of Thomas & Elizabeth Boleyn losing access to their grandchild and last connection to Anne (and vice-versa).

Idk if there ever has been a comprehensive biography of Thomas or Elizabeth Boleyn? That would be helpful in this regard, for sure. 

I know Thomas and George Boleyn were at her christening, and it was Thomas Boleyn’s sister that ran Hatfield starting 1533…presumably it’s possible he [and/or his wife] had visited, but I don’t know of any record of such. 

It’s also equally (or more, maybe?) plausible that his court career was too busy to ever give a visit. He had one of the highest attendance rates in Parliament in 1534, for example.

As for after May 1536 (although I know you didn’t include that in the ask), presumably Thomas also saw Elizabeth at court (she was there in October 1536–  a report from the time reads “[that] the King is very affectionate to [Elizabeth]. It is said he loves her much”–  around which time Boleyn assisted in squashing the Pilgrimage of Grace). He was at the christening of Edward VI, and by 1538 was firmly back at court.

Information on Elizabeth Boleyn is, sadly, even more scarce than sources for Thomas Boleyn– so I have no idea, in regards to any times she may have been around her granddaughter. She was in Anne Boleyn’s household during her period as Queen Consort, though, so I assume she spent some time with Elizabeth during the few months before she went to an official residence. 

And it was Thomas Howard, another of Elizabeth’s great uncles, that accompanied her to Hatfield in late 1533 (I don’t have a source on me but I feel like I remember…reading that, a few places….  [ x ]). 

But, hey, Elizabeth wasn’t taken to Hatfield until December 1533– it stands to reason that her grandparents might have had time with her before then, in chambers with Anne, perhaps? Also, Anne kept Elizabeth beside her at court before then: “courtiers were often embarrassed by Anne’s displays of affection for her baby[…]she loved to have Elizabeth next to her on a cushion, rather than shut away in a nursery.” Stands to reason, also, that her grandparents may have been around during some of these occasions. 

Do you ever think of how much Anne Brandon was her father’s daughter? Leaving her husband to be with her lover, doing shady/unethical stuff for money, wanting to be at the centre of attention (to the point of making a scene at her step-mothers funeral) etc. It’s as if she got all the the Brandon DNA, and left none for her siblings

Haven’t done much reading on Anne Brandon, but you’re right about the scandal:

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Far as I know, Randal Haworth wasn’t her former ward she was guardian of and wasn’t fourteen years old at the time so…I would say I still like her more than Charles Brandon. 

Tbh, Charles Brandon is one of those figures that like…the more I learned about him the less I liked him. And Tudors does so much to make him more palatable to viewers– they aged him down, to the point where it looked like Mary Tudor (his third wife) was older than he was (the opposite was definitely true). And while they wrote that he wasn’t faithful to her (idk if that was true, actually), they made it seem like there was a decent length of time between his third and fourth marriage. IRL, he married Willoughby less than three months after Mary’s death. 

They also put in a line about Katherine Willoughby being seventeen when he married her (which confused me, at first– why not eighteen– until I remembered that the age of consent in the UK is lower)– in actuality, she was just fourteen, and Brandon was forty-nine years old. 

I’ve been rewatching Friends because of your post about the ep with the bagpipes; and I actually gotta say a lot of Ross things are VERY H8 đŸ˜‚

Tbh?? I’ll probably eventually get to some with this meme, but like:

  1. saying the wrong woman’s name at the altar
  2. wanting to hook up with someone hot but noping out because their apartment is too messy/dirty (hypochondriac + fastidiously clean?? i think not)
  3. “Get OFF my sister!!!!”

  4. “We had to stop at every maple candy stand on the way here.” * visibly vibrating*

  5. “There he is, the father of my child, the porn king of the west Village.”

  6. screaming @ his boss because he ate his (labeled) sandwich that was in the communal fridge  
  7. taking all the amenities from hotel rooms and not checking out until the last possible moment
  8. “Have you considered therapy?” “I think…just the annulment…for today.”
  9. buying a pair of leather pants that are too tight, taking them off in his date’s bathroom and not being able to get them back on
  10. “Three divorces!” (in parrot from Aladdin voice) 
  11. singing Baby Got Back to an actual baby; not realizing how inappropriate the chorus is until right after (”I’m a terrible father!”)
  12. using the spare key to get into his ex’s apartment so he can get his pink shirt back (because it is his favorite shirt)
  13. “If I went over there I’d be ignoring the one thing she asked me to do when we broke up…’jump up my own ass and die’.”
  14. glaring at the nanny when they play Greensleeves on their recorder. 

  15. “She said you actually proposed to her.”  “Well, I didn’t! I didn’t propose! Unless…. Did I? I haven’t slept in 40 hours, and it does sound like something I would do…” Â