This isn’t a tudor ask, but were Cesare and Lucrezia incesty irl? They’re always portrayed that way in shows and stuff, and I wanted to know if it was true.

I don’t even have a rudimentary knowledge of the Borgias, so you should probably ask someone else?

My impression is that there were rumors that they were; and that the two of them did have a close relationship, perhaps unusually close for siblings of the gentry in that era. Beyond that, I really don’t know, but I don’t think there’s ever been irrefutable “proof” of incest between the two of them. 

tbh I always personally took that Disturbing line “like dark hooks for the soul” to mean dark in the figurative sense, like there was something dark in her spirit that attracted people to her, which, granted, actually makes it So Much Worse because it plays into the whole ‘Anne was an evil seductress trope’ but it fit the version of Thomas Boleyn they were selling :/

I mean much was said of her eyes, so I get the quote kind of (dually alluring and dark, but yeah suggesting especial ‘darkness’ in the sense of malevolence is…yawn, esp. since Gregory’s ‘interpretation’ of Anne) but like…maybe something not appropriate for her father to be saying?? 

They really just made him the Worst, this + “it’s as if he was imagining her…naked” like dude!! That’s your daughter!! Stop forever!! ‘

I guess they just wanted us to hate him as much as Charles Brandon did shshshsh, to the point where we’re rooting for him/connecting with him in s2 when he confronts him in the Tower and asks him if it was ‘all worth it’.