opinions on elizabeth norton (the historian)?

Hmmm… mixed? I can’t post any excerpts right now because I’m on mobile; but she cited Nicholas Sanders as an ‘Elizabethan writer’ without mention that he was a Catholic priest and polemicist (that claimed Anne Boleyn– who he’d never seen, as he was born 1530 and not at court– had several deformities, and oh yeah, was also Henry VIII’s illegitimate daughter!) in her Jane Seymour bio.

In her bio on Bessie Blount she also said (in a very weirdly…pointed sort of tone) that she had “many traits that would have made her a better Queen Consort than Anne Boleyn, had Henry CARED to notice them” which.. djsjsjsjsj….

I mean, for one, she was already married and had several children with her husband by the time Henry was looking into an annulment, for another, her father was an extremely minor nobleman while Anne’s lineage was far more connected to royalty (for all the pearl-clutchers that are still, in the year 2018, going on about the audacity of Henry ‘diluting the royal line with COMMON blood’…Thomas Boleyn had claims to Ormond and Elizabeth Howard was the daughter of the Duke of Norfolk and the Countess of Surrey).

This isn’t a tudor ask, but were Cesare and Lucrezia incesty irl? They’re always portrayed that way in shows and stuff, and I wanted to know if it was true.

alicehoffmans:

I don’t even have a rudimentary knowledge of the Borgias, so you should probably ask someone else?

My impression is that there were rumors that they were; and that the two of them did have a close relationship, perhaps unusually close for siblings of the gentry in that era. Beyond that, I really don’t know, but I don’t think there’s ever been irrefutable “proof” of incest between the two of them. 

lucreceborgia said: hi! sorry to jump in, but yes! the borgia family is indeed involved in many rumors, especially lucrezia! she was accused of having an incestuous relationship with cesare, but there is no irrefutable evidence of anything! but there is proof of an affectionate and close relationship!

Thanks! That was my impression as well; I just didn’t want to say anything incorrect. I’ve never done any in-depth reading on them. 

why don’t you like the spanish monarchy?” uuuuuuh colonialism, the inquisition, and they kept like……..marrying their nieces…….probably more but that’s the top of what comes to …… mind………

(im going to bed after this shshsh but): cersei lannister, elizabeth woodville and/or edward iv?

i’m dying at how accurate all of these are but especially:

lesbiancerseilannister:

thank you haley <333

cersei lannister:

  • their blog url: not to be cliche but lioness lol and people will ask her how tf she got that url and she won’t even respond
  • the kind of posts they reblog: aesthetic posts, political posts, some fashion, posts that are like “girls are just as good as boys” etc.
  • the first person they followed: jaime
  • what kind of theme they’d have: white and organized, but with red accents like the link hover color and stuff like that, basically a beautiful theme that everyone would be jealous of
  • what kind of text posts they make at 2am: ajkskdkdkds “i honestly don’t see what the problem with incest is if it’s between two consenting adults. maybe just stay out of other people’s business??”

elizabeth woodville:

  • their blog url: aqueenelizabeth
  • the kind of posts they reblog: posts about being a mom, witchcraft positivity posts jsjdjdjdjddd, fashion
  • the first person they followed: one of her sisters probably
  • what kind of theme they’d have: very feminine and light, if that makes sense hahaha
  • what kind of text posts they make at 2am: “no offense but i fucking hate warwick and i’d curse him if i could” then deletes it before anyone sees it jdjdjdjdjdjd

edward iv:

  • their blog url: this is hard bc i feel like he’d just be basic and do his name or some shit but also i don’t want to sell him short. so maybe… edwardtheyorkking or something like that lol
  • the kind of posts they reblog: stuff about his fav sports teams bc i just feel like he’d be the type, stuff about having a great relationship lol, DAD JOKES, posts about not knowing what the fuck he’s doing 90% of the time, TAURUS POSTS
  • the first person they followed: richard which pissed george off bc he’s the one that told edward about tumblr hahahaha
  • what kind of theme they’d have: one of the generic ones.. my poor boy
  • what kind of text posts they make at 2am: drunkenly “I LVOE MY WIFE FUCK GOERGE AND FUCK EVERYONE ELSE” or something like that

richard which pissed george off bc he’s the one that told edward about tumblr