i was actually supposed to get a refund for something that never came that a seller (it was for a migraine lavender mask fdhdhfh like an age ago when i still had $) promised me so :+)
but anyways IF she ever does what i want to get with the etsy credit actually is any of these:
I don’t know about upbringing exactly; I think probably an education that was similar to hers, a focus on languages (which seemed to be what ended up happening anyway, under Henry’s guidance, so maybe that would have been mutual). Evangelical-leaning tutors; if she could manage to secure some as she was sponsoring several scholars that were evangelical-leaning…perhaps Nicholas Bourbon, had he stayed. Anne and Henry were both composers themselves, so probably an immersive music education as well. And she’d want her to read City of Ladies, and works by Marguerite de Navarre.
She seemed to want a French marriage alliance for her (although that was rebuffed); I think had she had a son by that point, the betrothal of Elizabeth and the dauphin would probably have been secured (although he died in 1536, so…). Had Henry made an alliance with the Emperor; they would both try to secure a betrothal with the future Philip II of Spain.
Right?? God…he was such a loser…”don’t talk to me or my sons or my sons’ sons, ever again.”
The thing that’s funny about Cutte’s entry in the Privy Purse Expenses, also, is that is says Henry rewarded a poor woman four shillings for “bringing again Cutte the king’s dog” so like…’again’? How many times did the dog wander off castle grounds, just living his best life…
Also’s the mention of Anne’s greyhound cracks me up because I just imagine, like:
Henry: I had to pay a farmer 10 shillings because your dog mauled their cow–
Anne: Interesting that when you want to walk with her, she’s your dog; but when she attacks a cow, suddenly she’s my dog…
Hm, I’ve talked about it before but I’ll expand in that I think… both H7 and H8 were more similar than they were different (or, at least more similar than many are willing to admit– most historians try to dissociate them from each other). Even in decision-making, and I think they both kind of fuqued up re: setting precedents that were like…not great tbh. Even though I understand the political motivations behind them, there were also aspects of them that were kind of like…politically dumb.
And we see this really early in their respective reigns (we see this in like…the ‘first day’ of H7′s and within the first year/s of H8′s).
So, H7′s first boo-boo I will tackle, and that is in the treatment of the corpse of Richard III.
Like…I get it. It’s not morally upstanding for sure, I’ll shade over it forever, but I do get like…the motivation. To treat the body honorably could potentially be dangerous because it implies that his death was regicide. And for his foundations, he can’t say R3 was ever king; rather an usurper.
At the same time I think it made him look…kind of petty, tbh. And even if we have to go with Richard the Evil Usurper angle (which, you need to, to have ground to stand on as the one that overthrew him etc. etc.) so he was never king etc. he was still, at the very least, a duke? A member of the nobility? Brother of the last ‘rightful king’ (and he had to be, for his respective children to be relegitimized and the marriage alliance to EoY to work out)?
Granted, shady and illegal things happend in the WoTR to members of the nobility, executions without trial re: Edward IV’s father (whose head was put on a spike) and of course Owen Tudor’s. But this wasn’t that…Richard was slain in battle. He was greatly loved in York. To treat his corpse with disrespect didn’t, in general, set a great precedent for English noblemen that had died in battle. It just added insult to injury, it made him look gloaty.
And H8′s was the executions of Empson and Dudley. I get the motivation behind these too; I’ve talked about them in detail both here and here, so I won’t repeat myself.
It wasn’t totally without precedent, I think many kings of the same era would have done the same. But at the same time this did set a problematic precedent that we see later on– that if there is enough popular discontent for a king’s advisor… it has the power to eventually influence, perhaps even guarantee, their death. I’m sure this remained in the memories of the commons…particularly because the revolts in the North that happened later in Henry VIII’s reign did not call for his deposition– but rather, the head of Cromwell. They seemed to believe that this was a reasonable and achievable goal, and to me it’s little wonder that they did.
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